Kindness as the Key to Our Future with Rutger Bregman

In this episode we chat to Rutger Bregman, author of Humankind: A Hopeful History (2020) and the bestseller Utopia For Realists (2014), about what it means to go back through the history of science and revise big ideas, how being an activist and an academic fit together, and whether kindness really is ‘enough’ to uproot problematic societal systems and actually change the world.